Why Hive Feels Less Rewarding Lately (And What You Can Do About It)
There’s a topic I’ve been meaning to talk about in a post, but for some reason, I kept postponing it until today. Maybe it’s because it’s a bit of a sensitive subject, and I’ve had difficulty framing it in a way that doesn’t offend others. Or maybe it’s just my personality. I tend to be diplomatic and always consider how others might feel about what I say, which often leads me to avoid discussing topics that might spark disagreement.
This topic is rewards.
created using Sora
In many ways, Hive is unique in the crypto space because it took a different path in terms of token distribution compared to major cryptos like BTC, ETH, and others. Most crypto projects that came after the early ones distribute their tokens through mining, staking, or faucets. These methods typically require either technical knowledge, an upfront financial investment, or insider information to access.
But here on Hive, anyone can participate. You can be a regular person and still earn Hive tokens simply by doing what you already do on a daily basis by engaging on social media.
That is why, back in the days of Steemit, Hive (then Steem) was referred to as the “Facebook killer.” The idea was that people would rather spend time on a platform like Steemit because it gave them the opportunity to earn money for creating content and interacting with others. And even today, that model has not changed. Users can still earn Hive by posting and commenting.
However, it is becoming increasingly difficult to earn on the platform, especially for new users. In fact, even long-time users are finding it more challenging over time. I have heard sentiments like these from members of the community:
“I wrote a 3,000-word post and earned just a few dollars. It’s not worth the effort.”
“I’ve been on the platform for months and still haven’t received consistent support from whales.”
“I’m very active here, but I’m not getting the attention I feel I deserve.”
“It’s unfair. I put so much effort into my blog, yet I earn far less than someone who just posts a podcast announcement.”
“The rewards are shrinking because the value of the coin is dropping.”
There is a growing sense of disappointment as Hive becomes less profitable in dollar terms, and content creators earn less than they used to. Understandably, this discourages some people from participating, posting content, or engaging with others on the platform.
This frustration is spreading, and I cannot blame those who feel this way. The visible decrease in post rewards is real. I remember when trending posts would earn hundreds, sometimes even thousands of dollars. That kind of visibility and reward drew a lot of people to the platform.
I even recall one post earning around $15,000 just for talking about a makeup or beauty routine. I cannot remember the exact content, but the rewards were massive. Of course, that did not last long. It happened during the hyper-inflation phase of the blockchain. Since then, inflation has slowed down, and the tokens distributed to users have decreased. Combine that with the declining dollar value of Hive, and naturally, post rewards have dropped in real value as well.
That said, regardless of what is happening with post rewards, there is one aspect of Hive that still offers a steady way to earn from inflation, and that is curation.
Having a decent stake in Hive Power allows you to earn curation rewards. Currently, it is possible to earn about 8% APR simply by upvoting content, in addition to around 2.9% APR in staking rewards.
In short, your Hive Power gives you a reliable way to earn rewards just by curating and holding. But of course, this comes with responsibility. Stakeholders are the ones who support the Hive platform’s value, and they are responsible for distributing rewards from the reward pool. That is why many of them are selective with their upvotes, supporting only those authors they trust or believe are adding real value. Similarly, they also downvote content they feel is being over-rewarded.
It is a sensitive topic, but that is how Hive works.
If you want to earn here, you either need to work hard to create high-quality content that attracts curators, or invest in your account by staking Hive and curating posts yourself to earn a share of the curation rewards.
In the end, understanding how Hive rewards work is essential to navigating and thriving on the platform. Whether through content creation or curation, there are opportunities available for those willing to learn and engage. While challenges exist, staying consistent and informed can make all the difference in your Hive journey.
Join the CryptoCompany Campaign here:
Rewards are key! Focusing on quality content feels like the right way to go 👍
Absolutely! Quality content remains the cornerstone of long-term success on Hive.
Thanks for dropping by and sharing your thoughts.
Interesting, I am too new to have know about those days that you speak of. To me it is way more exciting now than when I was starting a year ago and rewards seem to be getting better and better. I guess that is the benefit of not knowing any better LOL :)
On a serious note though if I were to put on my hat as an investor I would have serious questions as to why I would want to deal with curating content and earning 8% + 2.9% on staked Hive Power if I could simply deposit my $100K USD into HBD savings and walk away with 15% and less risk exposure to Hive which is much better than that combined 11% when it comes to the big money...
That’s a great perspective... and honestly, you make a solid point! HBD savings is definitely attractive for lower risk and set-it-and-forget-it returns.
I think curation appeals more to those who enjoy being active on the platform or want to build influence over time. But yeah, for bigger capital, HBD’s fixed 15% is hard to beat! 😊
I agree, curation is probably not for big investors, but maybe for small investors who have large appetite for risk can embrace Hive volatility and have genuine interest in writing and reading. For example to get noticed you bring in a few thousand dollars buy Hive stake it and you have instant credibility that you are not here just to milk author rewards, you start earning a little on your staked Hive via curation but you earn more in author rewards and stake those compounding the author rewards and that is how you beat the 15% HBD return :)
@topcomment
Absolutely! That’s a smart strategy... staking to build credibility and reinvesting in your growth here.
Hive definitely rewards consistency and intention over time. 💪 Ultimately, it’s up to us to make it work. IMHO, success on this platform really depends on how well a user stays on track and maintains focus. 🙂
Your reply is upvoted by @topcomment; a manual curation service that rewards meaningful and engaging comments.
More Info - Support us! - Reports - Discord Channel
The biggest stakeholders have too much power but sadly, that's the fundamental economics of HIve, so other than buying a few million Hive and staking it, there's very little to be done.
The issue is that the majority of these mega stakeholders care nothing about what they're voting on as it's all about maxxing curation for them. Even if the content is decent, there's often zero engagement from many users whose only reason for being here is to post and cash out.
You nailed a tough truth... power concentration is a big challenge. I agree that some big stakeholders treat Hive more like an ROI engine than a community.
Hopefully more balance and engagement will grow over time.
Most of them also engage in vote trading and it's very easy to see. They vote all of each other's posts. It's free money. Yet, when they deem someone's posts not worthy they DV them to 0.
[@PowerPaul:]
Hey Max! Because of your participation in the CryptoCompany community and your participation in the "Banner for Boost" campaign you received a vote from @CryptoCompany and its trail! Hive a great day!
lolztoken.com
He goes under cover.
Credit: marshmellowman
@curamax, I sent you an $LOLZ on behalf of ccceo.voter
(2/8)
Farm LOLZ tokens when you Delegate Hive or Hive Tokens.
Click to delegate: 10 - 20 - 50 - 100 HP
@tipu curate
Upvoted 👌 (Mana: 27/57) Liquid rewards.
Appreciate the curation 🙌
Thanks for dropping by! Let me know your thoughts if you get a chance to read it. 😊
Lol, I have actually read to the end but I was too in a hurry to share my thoughts. Now let go and do the needful.
Not sure if you were trying to preempt downvotes from the bullies who go around removing rewards because they think a post earned "too much" as if their opinion is more important than all the people who upvoted because they have deep pockets or kissed the right asses, but I don't think your post deserved a downvote from yourself.(maybe you are one of those bullies?)
Either way, I read it and felt it was worth my vote.
!PIZZA
Sadly, this is a preemptive move on my part… I’ve noticed that whenever my post gets close to $22 in pending rewards, it almost always receives an automatic downvote of around $8–$9 (from a whale who doesn't even make an effort to read my post or comment to justify their downvote). This has been happening consistently for the past 3 months, so I’m pretty sure this post will get hit soon too.
I really do appreciate your upvote, but would you mind unvoting it? 😅 Or maybe reducing it to just 1%? I'm already happy just knowing you read my post and even took the time to leave a comment.
And just to clarify... I'm not a bully. I’ve never downvoted anyone… only myself (for the reason I said above). :(
Well, I hated to do that, lost me VP and curation, but I'd rather you not get hit for more because of me. It's very lame that you actually had to ask me nicely to remove my vote, such an upside-down situation.
I see that downvote nonsense going on and thought that might the case, I'm sorry that you're on the receiving end of it...I think downvotes are necessary (otherwise I'd go over to Blurt), but I think they should be used for actual abuse like plagiarism or kiddy porn or solicitations to violence,...things that are actually against the community rules or are illegal, not for perceived "abuse" or capping earnings.
Keep on keeping on, bro. 👍
I feel conflicted about it, to be honest. It’s a tough choice because by self-downvoting, I’m also reducing the curation rewards of those who support me. That’s why I’m trying my best to add more value to my posts by including research whenever I have extra time.
And yeah, it feels like some downvoters are taking the easy route... just targeting posts they believe are over-rewarded. Maybe it gives them a sense of doing good for the platform, like a pat on the back. But if they truly care about fair downvoting, there are real abuses they could focus on (like the ones you mentioned).
That said, dealing with actual abuse on the platform is no easy task. And it's also tricky to expect whale downvoters to handle it all. It might be asking too much to expect them to actively fight plagiarism or spam, especially if they lack the time or resources to do so. 😓
Thanks for reducing the upvote... however, it seems it still isn't enough. :(
I know this might sound like a weird request, but I’d really appreciate it if you could downvote it by 100%. Based on what’s been happening, I’m quite sure it will soon receive an $8-$9 downvote, which could end up reducing the curation rewards for those who already upvoted it.
I’m just trying to minimize the impact on others, so I hope you’ll consider my request. Thanks so much in advance!
Bro, you're killing me. This absolutely violates my principles regarding downvoting. But in the interest of your curators, I will, since you asked. 😭
Thanks a lot, brother! You actually helped relieve the stress I was feeling earlier about my post getting downvoted soon (now it's in a safe zone). It’s kind of funny and a bit weird to be thanking you for helping out in such an unusual way... but I truly appreciate it.
Anyway, have a great Sunday night (or day)! 😊
The funny thing about some of those people is that they'll post something that's genuinely low effort and make $30 every time but never consider their own posts over-rewarded
When the price of hive is low, not everyone would feel motivated to keep posting like they used to. Just wait till the price of hive is like times four of what it's now, you might suddenly see more people being very active with posting. It happens all the time.
And you are right, to earn on hive is not limited to creating content, putting HBD In saving and be earning 15% APR is another cool way.
Absolutely! The Hive price definitely affects motivation, and when it rises again, we’ll probably see a wave of activity return.
And yes... earning via HBD savings is such an underrated option! Glad you mentioned that. 😊
There was a point I almost felt like giving up
For months I was not getting anything despite my level of activeness. It got so bad posting becoming extremely difficult as it felt like a waste of time.
However a friend of mine encouraged me that even if it gets though I should continue as there are bound to be benefits someday.
I am still struggling 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I won't give up though
I totally feel you. That sense of burnout is real, especially when the rewards don’t match the effort. But it’s great that you’ve chosen to keep pushing forward. Keep showing up... consistency really does pay off over time. 💪
After seven years on Hive/Steem, the drop in votes value is tragic for me, and the poor response from just ten or so whales that run this whole show who used to upvote but now don't bother, has driven me away from posting much any more.
I feel you... Personally, I’ve noticed a growing sense of demotivation around the platform lately. Engagement levels have dropped drastically. Just looking at the trending page, it honestly feels like a ghost town. If newcomers or outside visitors were to take a peek, I imagine many would be turned off from joining. It almost looks fake, some posts are earning $40 or even $80, yet the comment sections often have 0, 1, or maybe 4 replies. It doesn’t look like those posts were actually upvoted by hundreds of people.
So it's not just the rewards that are shrinking... engagement has clearly declined too. I don’t mean to sound pessimistic, just sharing what I’ve been observing. Please don’t take it negatively.
Anyway, I really hope you keep sharing your voice here, in whatever way feels right for you.
Have a great day!
Hmm at the risk of sounding unfriendly/unpleasant, I am afraid that the harsh reality is that voting is something you have no control of, and hence, it might be too unhealthy to set expectations that you should be getting x amount because it can easily lead to disappointment.
Every post starts from zero and personally, I almost never have any expectations what I will be getting. A good amount of my posts are just 1 or 2 dollars and that doesn't bother me because writing is a hobby of mine and this is not a job.
The voting is sometimes "unfair" and "surprising" at the same time. Even for myself, I have posts that I put in a lot of effort to research and write and didn't get much votes, but on the other hand, there are posts which I didn't require that much effort but a good amount of votes came in.
Finally, it just struck me to ask whether I should be upvoting your posts because you are downvoting at the same time. If I am "sabotaging" you in any way, I can stop the upvoting too.
Cheers.
Hey buddy, I really appreciate your honest take, and no worries at all, it didn’t come off as unfriendly to me. You're absolutely right that voting is beyond our control, and setting expectations too high isn’t always a good idea either. After all, posting here is basically free, and the platform doesn’t promise guaranteed rewards.
For me, it’s not so much about expecting a certain payout, but more about noticing recurring patterns like auto downvotes happening just when a post starts gaining some traction. I get that downvoters have the right to adjust rewards, but it would be nice if they were a bit more courteous in their approach... maybe make an effort to engage first and politely explain why they feel a post is over-rewarded. Hehe.
Maybe that’s just wishful thinking...
Anyway, no worries at all about the upvotes! I never saw your support as anything negative or like sabotage. That said, feel free to unvote or lower it to 1% for this particular post if you prefer. :) (There's a whale that auto-downvotes my post when it reaches close to around $22)
I'm already glad you dropped by and took the time to leave a comment.
Thanks again for your thoughtful words and for sticking around through all the ups and downs. Cheers!
Yeah yours is a somewhat peculiar situation, from what I can see. Like you said, posting here is basically free.
On the bright side, the crypto market is trending upwards, and Hive might just follow the trend soon, so all these current vote values might be worth much more in the future!
Thanks for taking time to drop me a reply too! Appreciate it!
I do hope that Hive follows the trend too :) Many of the negative sentiments about the platform will be forgotten (temporarily) if that happens hehehe
Good night!
I am here for many years. Just keep building regardless what is the upvote. Dwelling too much into it will just spoil your mood. As long as you are doing good content, just continue working on them.
That’s solid advice, and I really appreciate the perspective. Thanks for the encouragement! 🙏💪
$PIZZA slices delivered:
@definethedollar(2/20) tipped @curamax
Come get MOONed!
Hello curamax!
It's nice to let you know that your article will take 6th place.
Your post is among 15 Best articles voted 7 days ago by the @hive-lu | King Lucoin Curator by keithtaylor
You receive 🎖 1.0 unique LUBEST tokens as a reward. You can support Lu world and your curator, then he and you will receive 10x more of the winning token. There is a buyout offer waiting for him on the stock exchange. All you need to do is reblog Daily Report 731 with your winnings.
Buy Lu on the Hive-Engine exchange | World of Lu created by szejq
STOP
or to resume write a wordSTART